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RE: [linux-team] Re: [Freesw] Re: Freesw Amazon against software patents (fwd)



Oui ben alors je prends le heap sort c'est plus rapide, na!
J'aime pas les brevets, c'est anti-créatif.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Alexandre Dulaunoy [SMTP:adulau@metatix.com]
> Sent:	12 Mar 00 23:04
> To:	linux-team@rtfm.be
> Subject:	[linux-team] Re: [Freesw] Re: Freesw Amazon against software
> patents (fwd)
> 
> Il est temps d'acheter ses livres chez www.fatbrain.com ou Agora LLN. 
> Après le one-click patent, le e-commerce patent bientot une patente pour
> le tri bulle. (j'y pense bcp...!) 
> 
> Après le tri bulle, pourquoi pas la liste chainée... 
> 
> http://www.freepatents.org/  
> 
> alx
> 
> 
>  [META]       [   Alexandre Dulaunoy   ] USER, n. The word computer  
>  [T]echnology [   [AD4384-DARPA]       ] professionals use when they
>  [I]nterface  [   [AD993-RIPE]         ] mean "idiot". 
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:19:03 +0100
> From: Bernard Lang <Bernard.Lang@inria.fr>
> Reply-To: freesw@conecta.it
> To: freesw@conecta.it
> Subject: Re: [Freesw] Re: Freesw Amazon against software patents
> 
> 
> 
> an a reply by Tim O'Reilly
> 
> http://www.ora.com/ask_tim/patent_reform_0300.html
> Amazon's Patent Reform Proposal
> 
>  After all, if Time Magazine's Man of the Year says that the patent
> system has gotten out of hand, that may well have more impact on the
> powers that be than if 10,000 relatively anonymous programmers do s
> 
> Bernard
> 
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 04:03:03PM +0100, Philippe.AIGRAIN@cec.eu.int
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the reference. Note that there already proposals
> > around 1995 in the States for a much shorter life-span for
> > software-related patents, and at the time there was resistance
> > to introduce different regimes + the contradiction with the
> > examination duration appeared impossible to overcome.
> > 
> > Jeff Bezos's position is clearly an important evolution.
> > First because it illustrates the incredible power of grassroot
> > movements in challenging business abuse. But also because
> > it is an important recognition that in the information
> > society, one can not go forever in the direction of
> > more protection for IP assets.
> > This said, Jeff Bezos contribution addresses only the
> > issues of life-span and identification of prior art, and
> > not other issues debated by software patents opponents such as:
> > - business process patents being unacceptable by principle
> > and not because of a particular implementation
> > - software "per se" being embodiment of mathematical
> > algorithms and software "per se" patents thus also unacceptable,
> > even if a shorter time-frame restricts their adverse impact
> > - patents calling for a-priori examination to be accepted
> > and challenger burden of the proof to be dismissed, while
> > on the contrary copyright is automatically granted and calls
> > for claimer burden of the proof on infringement.
> > 
> > So what do people think?
> > 
> > Philippe
> > > Open letter from Jeff Bezos
> > > 
> > >
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/subst/misc/patents.html/103-6977436-7321
> 414
> > > 
> > > what I have
> > > in mind: 
> > > 
> > > 1. That the patent laws should recognize that business method and
> > > software patents are fundamentally different than other kinds of
> > > patents.
> > > 
> > > 2. That business method and software patents should have a much
> > > shorter lifespan than the current 17 years -- I would propose 3 to 5
> > > years. This isn't like drug companies, which need long patent windows
> > > because of clinical testing, or like complicated physical processes,
> > > where you might have to tool up and build factories. Especially in the
> > > age of the Internet, a good software innovation can catch a lot of
> > > wind in 3 or 5 years.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Bernard.Lang@inria.fr             ,_  /\o    \o/    Tel  +33 1 3963
> 5644
> > > http://pauillac.inria.fr/~lang/  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  Fax  +33 1 3963
> 5469
> > >             INRIA / B.P. 105 / 78153 Le Chesnay CEDEX / France
> > >          Je n'exprime que mon opinion - I express only my opinion
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> > > 
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> -- 
> Bernard.Lang@inria.fr             ,_  /\o    \o/    Tel  +33 1 3963 5644
> http://pauillac.inria.fr/~lang/  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  Fax  +33 1 3963 5469
>             INRIA / B.P. 105 / 78153 Le Chesnay CEDEX / France
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>                  CAGED BEHIND WINDOWS or FREE WITH LINUX
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