Received: by snad.ncsl.nist.gov (4.1/SMI-4.0-MHS-7.0) id AA08554; Mon, 7 Nov 94 08:56:13 EST Date: Mon, 7 Nov 94 08:56:13 EST Message-Id: <9411071356.AA08554@snad.ncsl.nist.gov> Status: R NMSIG-94/379 MINUTES OF THE 6TH PT27 MEETING, OCTOBER 1994 >From Graham.G.Knight@level-7.co.uk Thu Oct 20 13:05:20 1994 From: Graham.G.Knight@level-7.co.uk (Tel +44 344 867199) To: pt27@titn.alcatel.fr, jgg@cc.bellcore.com, claudio.teisa@cselt.stet.it, Roland.Kuhn@DANET-GMBH.DANET.d400.de, isabelle.valet@vbo.digital.fr, kskim@vision.etri.re.kr, bal@iitb.fhg.de, saenger@iitb.fhg.de, nakawaji@sy.isl.melco.co.jp, csg@national-computing-centre.co.uk, teshiga@tink.epc.ho.nec.co.jp, brusil@osi.ncsl.nist.gov, mikek@huachuca-jitcosi.army.mil, thomask@cc.ims.disa.mil, 756293@twnmoctl.bitnet, "/I=GS/S=VERMEER/O=PTT RESEARCH/PRMD=PTT RESEARCH/"@400net.nl, dpc@sema-itf.fr, WTSAI@TWNMOCTL.EARN, "/G=HUY/S=TRUONG/OU=6127/O=TANDEM COMPUTERS/PRMD=TANDEM/ADMD=TELEMAIL/Ck Cc: EWOS@sp1.y-net.be, das@national-computing-centre.co.uk Subject: PTN027 Minutes PTN027/MTG/15 Minutes of the 6th PTN027 Meeting held during Thursday 13th October and Friday 14th October 1994. PRESENT: Dr Yoshimi Teshigawara, AOW Mr Whey-Hsing Tsai, AOW Ms Marianne Delaire, ATA Mr Claudio Teisa, CSELT Mr Roland Kuhn, Danet Ms Isabelle Valet-Harper, EWOS EGNM Mr Wolfgang Ballin, FhG Mr Robert Saenger, FhG Mr Graham Knight, Level-7 Ltd Dr Christian Goswami, NCC Mr Joe Ghetie, OIW Mr Gert Vermeer, PTT-NL Ms Gwen Rolland, SGT CC: Dr Tetsuo Nakakawaji, AOW Mr Kwong-Soo Kim, AOW Mr Gary Tzeng, AOW Dr Luc van den Berghe, EWOS Dr Paul Brusil, OIW Mr Mike Kutch, OIW Ms Kim March-Force, OIW Mr Huy Truong, OIW 1 APPROVAL OF LAST MINUTES (PTN027/MTG/13) No comments had been received. 2 ACTIONS FROM LAST MINUTES Reference Status MTG2/ACTS/02 Final PTN027 outputs would be put up on the EIS accessible using FTP. MTG4/ACTS/02 Email with ATA now established. Closed. MTG5/ACTS/01 Outstanding. QA03 will be updated with final PTS. MTG5/ACTS/02 Each TSD to provide information to Level-7 by 24/10/94. MTG5/ACTS/03 PTT-NL011 forwarded to AOW and OIW. Closed. MTG5/ACTS/04 NCC's deliverables confirmed as complete save for input to DEL01 and QA03. Closed. MTS5/ACTS/05 SGT have provided ACSE information for DEL001. Closed. MTG5/ACTS/06 ATA/CSELT/FhG/NCC to provide information to Level- 7 by 24/10/94. MTG5/ACTS/07 Comments in ATA010 taken care of in FHG/007 version 1.7 (see FHG/023). Closed. MTG5/ACTS/08 Examples being provided by PTT-NL. MTG5/ACTS/09 This was an EG CT work item. Outside scope of PT. Closed. MTG5/ACTS/10 Outstanding for Presentation and ROSE (to stage 5). MTG5/ACTS/11 Complete. Closed. MTG5/ACTS/12 Complete. Closed. 3 PROJECT STATUS Proposed Status Report PTN027/PRO/08 was circulated for comment and was approved. 4 PRESENTATION The Presentation ATS had only just arrived in TAIPEI (though it had been available within INTAP earlier). Both AOW and OIW accepted the Presentation work. DAN026 version 2 reviewed. Documents CSELT/HARMON001, CSELT/002, CSELT/003, CSELT/004, CSELT/005, CSELT/007, CSELT/012 and CSELT/016 would not be included as part of the PSTS deliverable but would be provided to EWOS as output from the project. The Presentation ATS would have to be further updated to reflect comments contained in DAN007-3. When checked by QA (DAN007-4) this would them be complete. CSELT had updated CSELT018 to version 2 which was presented at the meeting. All work will complete by 24/10/94. 5 TEST MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL All comments now accommodated (or rejected with acceptance of originator): - DAN022 (FhG response in FHG/016) - INTC-055 (FhG response in FHG /017) - FHG/011 proposal (FHG/018) - PTT-NL010 (FhG response FHG/019) - AOW document N898 (accepted but no formal response). It was agreed not to add an explanation concerning an inactivity timer. The final version of FHG/012 (version 1.2) was circulated at the meeting on Friday 14th October 1994. 6 ROSE ATA advised that not all the ROSE-USER tests were covered by the CMIP ATS. An ATS/TSS/TP set for ROSE-USER was required therefore (albeit small). The roadmap was agreed as follows: - ROSE TSS/TP and ATS to be delivered to PTT-NL by ATA by 17/10/94 - PTT-NL to QA it 18/10/94 - PTT-NL would forward to AOW and OIW 19/10/94 - AOW and OIW would confirm acceptance by 26/10/94. All ROSE work to complete by 31/10/94. 7 CMIP ASN.1 Document DAN026 version 2 was reviewed. The CMIP ASN.1 ATS required some additional changes to accommodate comments contained in DAN019-2. This would be available by 21/10/94. Information related to the IXIT (DEL001) should be provided to ATA (and Level-7). The CMIP ASN.1 work was accepted by AOW and OIW. All work will complete by 24/10/94. 8 CMIP 8.1 TSS/TP (FHG/017 version 1.5) Comments had been received and were responded to as follows: - DAN023 (FhG response FHG/020) - AOW email dated 12/8/94 (FhG response FHG/021) - AOW NM N897 (FhG response FHG/022) - ATA/010 (FhG response FHG/023) There were no points of disagreement and version 1.7 of FHG/007 was distributed at the meeting on Friday 14th October. 8.2 ATS Comments had been received as follows: - AOW NM N899R2 - INTC006 (covered by NM N899R2 above) - AOW NM N908 (received 11th October) - CSELT paper - PTT-NL006. ATA and FhG would work through these and respond. (ATA had already covered PTT-NL006 in ATA019 dated 22/7/94 but neither PTT-NL or Level- 7 had received it). The naming conventions had not been 100 percent applied due to the time involved particularly to convert the test cases inherited from CTS3. This would be an "exception" in the final report. The roadmap was that the ATS comments would be worked through by ATA and FhG by 21/10/94. CSELT and FhG ATS parts would be provided to ATA by 21/10/94. ATA would complete merged ATS by 31/10/94. 8.3 Test Purpose Selection Comments had been received: - INTC001 - PTT-NL009 (responded to in ATA019 version 2). All comments had been accepted. ATA015 would be updated and reissued (version 2). All work can complete by 31/10/94. 9 SESSION The Session deliverables had been finalised on 31st August, having taken account of comments from AOW. Final copies had been provided by NCC to Level-7 and PTT-NL (who in turn had redistributed them to AOW and OIW). Only actions MTG5/ACTS/02, MTG5/ACTS/06 and MTG6/ACTS/11 and 12 were outstanding. All work would complete by 21/10/94. 10 ACSE and ACSE ASN.1 The ATS was nearing completion; the outstanding points of clarification were cleared up between SGT and Danet. An AOW comment INTC007 was received by fax on the day of the meeting. This was accepted by SGT and would be addressed in the final release which would be produced by 24/10/94. Danet could then reissue DAN013 at version 4. Information should be included to assist the test realiser. SGT had provided their input to DEL001; copies of the appropriate pages were passed to Danet. SEMA/006 - ACSE PCTR was made available at the meeting. Reference to SEMA/03 should be deleted from DAN026. All work would complete by 24/10/94. 11 NEXT STEPS The PTN027 Final Report should be made available to the EWOS Secretariat by Monday 24th October so that it could be included in the second TA mailing on Friday 28th October. Simultaneous to this activity the technical work would continue to complete by the 31st October. Danet and PTT-NL would spend 4th November at Level-7 to produce the final deliverables to be produced for EWOS. There would be a 5-10 minute presentation required by the project to the TA on the 22nd/23rd November. Wolfgang Ballin offered to do this using the overheads produced by the Project Manager. 12 CLOSING REMARKS 12.1 AOW - Dr Yoshimi Teshigawara Dr Teshigawara thanked the PT for its efforts and advised that the PT output could be approved informally at the AOW plenary to be held on 4th November with formal endorsement following in December. 12.2 OIW - Mr Joe Ghetie Me Ghetie also thanked the PT and advised that OIW would be in a position to endorse the PTN027 work in November informally with formal endorsement following in December. 12.3 EGNM Chair - Ms Isabelle Valet-Harper Ms Valet-Harper thanked the PT, particularly AOW and OIW for their contribution. 12.4 FhG - Mr Wolfgang Ballin Mr Ballin raised the issue of PTN027 maintenance and it was agreed this would be an open item to be included in the Final Report. (Roland Kuhn gave a presentation on "Procedures for Maintenance of Test Specifications in EWOS" which was an EWOS work item with which he was involved). The PTN027 Project Manager thanked the Project members particularly AOW and OIW for attending the meeting. The meeting closed at 12:30. Graham R Knight 20 October 1994 PTN027 ACTION LIST 1 CARRIED FORWARD ACTIONS Reference Action Responsible Complete by ====================================================================== MTG2/ACTS/02 Put PTN027 output Level-7 20/11/94 up onto EIS. MTG5/ACTS/01 Update QA03 for TSDs PTT-NL 21/10/94 to complete (taking into account of SGT comments). MTG5/ACTS/02 Provide input to ATA/CSELT/ 28/10/94 Level-7 for QA03. FhG/NCC/SGT MTG5/ACTS/06 Provide specific ATA/CSELT/ 28/10/94 technical input to FhG/NCC Level-7 re DEL001. MTG5/ACTS/08 Include in QA report PTT-NL 19/10/94 for CMIP ATS a (selection) of specific test cases reviewed. MTG5/ACTS/10 Advise final TP CSELT/ATA 21/10/94 coverage (stage 5 complete). 2 NEW ACTIONS Reference Action Responsible Complete by ====================================================================== MTG6/ACTS/01 Complete final version CSELT 19/10/94 Presentation ATS to reflect comments from Danet (DAN007-3). MTG6/ACTS/02 Accept final Danet 21/10/94 Presentation ATS (DAN007-4). MTG6/ACTS/03 Prepare final DAN026 Danet 31/10/94 (version 3) when all work complete. MTG6/ACTS/04 Check with JMB (ICL) Danet 19/10/94 on status of Presentation PICs and advise CSELT. MTG6/ACTS/05 Accept ROSE TSS/TP AOW/OIW 26/10/94 and ATS. MTG6/ACTS/06 Produce all ROSE ATA 28/10/94 related PTS document- ation (DEL001, QA03, etc). MTG6/ACTS/07 Update CMIP ASN.1 CSELT 21/10/94 ATS. MTG6/ACTS/08 Accept final CMIP Danet 25/10/94 ASN.1 ATS. MTG6/ACTS/09 Produce CMIP ASN.1 CSELT 21/10/94 PCTR (CSELT020). MTG6/ACTS/10 Advise ATA/FhG of TC PTT-NL 21/10/94 examples where naming conventions had not been applied. MTG6/ACTS/11 Edit NCC/008 to strip PTT-NL 21/10/94 out text prior to test case tables and update NCC disks. MTG6/ACTS/12 Update NCC/009 file NCC 21/10/94 and pass to Level-7 and PTT-NL. MTG6/ACTS/13 Produce equivalent to PTT-NL 21/10/94 DAN026 for CMIP, Session and ROSE.