From brusil@snad.ncsl.nist.gov Thu Oct 20 16:25:52 1994 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 16:24:56 EDT Message-Id: <9410202024.AA29264@snad.ncsl.nist.gov> To: nmsig@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov, snmsigl@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov Subject: NMSIG-94/369 Distributed Systems Management WG Meeting Report Cc: aow-nmsig@stc.ipa.go.jp, ewos-egnm@external.iihe.ac.be OIW NMSIG-94/369 DISTRIBUTED SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT WORKING GROUP SEPT 94 MEETING NOTES To: dsm@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov From: hungate@sst.ncsl.nist.gov (Joe Hungate) Subject: Minutes 9/13 & 14 X-Mailer: Sender: ower-dsm@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov Precedence: bulk Status: RO Distributed System Management Working Group (DSMWG) of the Open System Environment (OSE) Technical Committee The DSMWG met at NIST, Gaithersburg, MD, September 13 and 14 1994. The meeting was chaired by Sol Broder, NASA/GSFC. INTRODUCTIONS The following people were in attendance: Joe Hungate NIST Lou Swentek Hughes Richard Morton IDA Bob Aronoff NIST Jon Becker Unisys Paul Brusil SMD Ken Hobday Mead Data Liz Zeisler MITRE Peter Shaw OSF Gary Foreman Hughes Kung Loh NTI Y Sastry Hughes Carl Wheatley Hughes John Tisaranni MITRE Laks Prabhala Hughes Charlean Mitchell MITRE Bruce Hutton CA Evan Winston Hughe Bo Sauers HP Zenn Wang DSET John Moses CSC ohn Tyler DISA Sol Broder NASA Deokjai Choi UMKC Taesang Choi UMKC Fritz Schulz NIST Bob Goldshneider OSF Chuck Thomas CSC James P. Kerr COMARCO Jonathan Weinstock Bellcore Richard Boivin DOD Cindy DellaTorre MITRE Kirk Shrewsbury Wiltel ADOPTION OF AGENDA The agenda was approved without modifiation. SPEAKERS Tuesday September 13 Peter Shaw, Open Software Foundaiin (OSF) Business Development Director spoke about the process by which management technology i migrating from being perceived by vendors as a competitive advantage to being a commodity component of a system. Discussion included an overview of the many consortium working to develop common management specifications, how these efforts interrelate, and how these efforts accelerate the iigrtion of management technology to commodity status. Ken Hobday, Sr. Staff Architect, MeadDDta Central(MDC), presented Mead's requirements for system management in general, Mead's vision for common MVS and UNIX systems management and an overview of Mead's use of DCE in managing long-lived UNIX application processes. MDC is quite far down the road in implementation of UNIX and MVS systems management and is currently orking with various vendors to achieve convergence of the separate UNIX and MVS management domins behind a "single piece of glass". Cindy DellaTorre, Mitre described a multi-protocol test bed for the management of generic distributed services. For a distributed service to work well, it must be managed well. To verify proper operation of distributed service, data from service elements and network elements are be collected and correlated. Cindy's team has developed a test bed that is capable of providing fault management of a generic distributed service. The test bed architecture is based upon emerging technologies for network and systems management and distributed computing such as the Open Software Foundation's Distributed Management Environment and the Object Management Group's Common Object Request Broker Architecture. DISCUSSION - USER REQUIREMENTS DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM MANAGEMENT The most of the discussion was about how the DSM user requiements document should be structured. A review of the OIW Open System Environment (OSE) Refrence Model led the group to decide on an entity based outline. Each entity in the model has a trong constituency from which expert contributions can be drawn. The entities are: User Interace Management, Information Management, Communication Management, Platform Management, and Applictions Management. Joe Hungate will serve as editor of the document. The first draft will cotain an initial set of requirements that have already been contributed and comments will be inited. The document will be available by FTP from the NIST infoserver nemo.ncsl.nist.gov. An emal message will be sent when the DSM directory is created. The next DSMWG meeting is planned fr December 13 & 14, 1994 with the possibility of an interim meeting announced via the DSM emaillist. Wednesday September 14 Joint with NMSIG SPEAKERS Hanafy Meleis, Manager Communications and Information Technology Programs, NIST discussed a new focus area of the Advanced Technology Program (ATP) that is under development. The new focus area will be Network and System Management. White papers were invited for submission to assist in the formulation of the new focus area. Martin Kirk, Manager X/Open Distributed System Manageent Program, presented Standardization Initiatives in Network and Systems Management. Martin characterized system management as being dominated by two separate constituencies - Network Management and System Management. The move from single vendor environments to open systems has resulted in a fragmented environment withlimited tools. The solution to this problem is standards integrating network and system managemnt. X/Open will continue to concentrate on system management and collaborate with the Network Management Forum (NMF), to integrate network management. Hal Folts, DISA, and Liz Zeisler, MITRE, presented an ensemble framework paper "Domain Framework: A General Model and Criteria for Ensemble Selection". The paper describes a generic semantic network model as a template for core entities and activities to be used in designing an enterprise domain ensemble. Several scenarios were used to illustrate the process. Input was solicited from the audience on what portion of the paper might be improved. John van Meurs, Dutch Telecom, presented the Service Provides Integrated Requirements for Information Technology (SPIRIT) approach to distributed computin. The SPIRIT goal in to define a general purpose computing platform based on open specifications to support the wide variety of applications required by the telecom service providers. Early 1995 is the planned completion date to produce specifications for the general purpose platform. The platform will be applicable to a wide range of applicatins and be suitable for use by organizations outside the telecom industry. For additional iformation contact: DSMWG Secretary, Joe Hungate (301/975-3368, jhungate@nist.gov) DSMWG Chair, ol Broder of NASA (301/286-7088, broder@ulabsgi.gsfc.nasa.gov),